Comments on: An Open Discussion of Hooters and Modesty, etc.

By: Bop

Bop — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:39:20 +0000

Not to bash your ideas, because that never gets anyone anywhere, but I think that its okay to wear whatever you want…(im not suggesting that you said it wasn’t but whatever). The fact is that women want to dress sexy because they know they ARE sexy and they dont mind men looking at them or leering. See, women, most at least, leer at hot guys too…its a two way street.

By: Kel1

Kel1 — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:09:21 +0000

Oh, sure. THAT should be easy. )

By: gretchen

gretchen — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:07:18 +0000

Yeah – there’s no magic bullet for this issue. Ultimately it is up to us adult women to set the example and to teach the younger ones. Unfortunately it looks like maybe we need to start by educating some adults first.

By: Kel1

Kel1 — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:04:24 +0000

But the problem is, we find that the only ones who get male attention are the ones who dress provocatively. And at an adolescent age when it’s “sooo important” for girls to be seen as “pretty,” it’s hard for them when they see the boys’ heads turn when scantily clad girls walk by.

Ideally, teaching them to respect themselves is what we need to do. But it would have to be a very strong arsenal that we give them, because society and Hollywood standards, etc, will continue to give them the exact OPPOSITE idea of what we’re trying to teach them.

By: gretchen

gretchen — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:50:05 +0000

Excellent points, Beth. You nailed it with “I think the issue is teaching our girls to respect themselves so as not to make themselves look like they want to be taken advantage of.” =d>

By: Kel1

Kel1 — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:53:25 +0000

Oh, BRAVA, Beth!!! Well said. It IS the “male idea of beauty” that has set the standard here.

I never really looked at it that way before; excellent point.

By: Beth

Beth — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:34:44 +0000

I don’t think the issue is “modesty”, I think the issue is teaching our girls to respect themselves so as not to make themselves look like they want to be taken advantage of. Women who dress in provocative ways are clearly leaning toward the “male” ideal of beauty. And while all women are able to make the choice as to what they feel comfortable wearing, it’s important that our young girls find worth in who they are, not in how they dress, or how much of their bodies they show. It’s a sad fact that this society’s beauty factor is ruled by what men see is beautiful. I am not male bashing. It’s a fact that men have driven the beauty ideal for centuries. The female body has always been seen as a source of “lust” and that leads to alot of warped views of sexuality. So I believe we need to teach our young girls (I have two daughters) that if they want to have merit and value, dressing like a whore is not the way to do it. Self respect is very important in my opinion. I agree with the statement from the previous commenter, “we™re teaching the younger generations that what matters is your “sexiness”, not your character or sense of self worth.” It’s only going to change if we parents step up and begin teaching things differently.

By: Kel1

Kel1 — Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:23:27 +0000

I’m still laughing about the “flossing my behind” comment. =))

In short, we’re teaching the younger generations that what matters is your “sexiness”, not your character or sense of self worth.

And if anyone thinks that your appearance and character aren’t linked, they should really think back to high school, or look at some celebs and connect their “images” with the sorts of clothing (or lack thereof) that they are known to wear (*cough*BritneySpears*cough*).
It isn’t just behavior that gives people the wrong idea about you, it’s how you choose to represent yourself as a whole.
If I walked around (as one baseball player’s wife recently did), with a shirt that said “F— you” on the back of it, would that make a statement about me, my attitude, and how I view myself and the world? I think it would. She did this in front of children, and parents were outraged. Why?

Should they not have been just as outraged if she had worn a skimpy top, exposing her body parts to those same impressionable young children?

When I was a kid, I had a book that was called something like, “It’s a TopsyTurvy World.” And in it, the family did everything backwards or upside down, like eating breakfast on the ceiling.

We may not eat on the ceiling (well, not in MY house :P), but things sure seem backwards in the world today.