Girls Can’t Play Football
While researching my latest design, I ran across this nifty image on some site that sells stock photography. What kills me is the way it is listed. All of the other images of the guys, including the ones that are staged are described as “boy playing football”. But look at this one of a girl…it says “girl dressed as a football player”. As if a girl can’t actually play. Bring it on. I can throw a perfect spiral and I can punt farther than most guys, too. Girls football has become popular in the last several years and in high schools across America several girls have joined the boys football team. However, finding information about “Girls Football” on the Internet has proved to be quite the challenge.
First of all, “girls football” most often refers to “soccer” since every other country except the US calls soccer “football”. So actually finding information on girls who play the sport with a brown pigskin ball and shoulder pads was a little more complicated than I expected. As it turns out, there really isn’t much out there about girls who play “American Football”. So I’m gonna ask for a little help with this one. I think this is one sport where women are still overlooked. Please post the names and/or web sites of women who play football at any level. Let’s give these ladies some support!
I’ll do my part by adding the Girls Can’t WHAT? football player design to the shop in red, blue and green uniform colors. If you would like a custom team color, jersey number or team name added, please use the contact form to make your request.
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165 Responses to “Girls Can’t Play Football”
I share your frustration with where girls/women are perceived to sit in respect of football
i do think that girls should be seen the same as boys. what makes them so grat that they can do everything and women can only do some
I think women can do everything, too. It’s just that as we get older, we females tend to back down sooner.
u gies are rite girls can do anything
i mean our highschool basket ball coach says that the best athleet in the school is mazine wite and she still looks good doing it
pls dont think im gay
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WHY CAN’T GIRLS BE THE SAME AS BOYS? THAT IS MY QUSTION TO THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT THINK THAT BOYS ARE BETTER THAT GIRLS AT SPORTS.
Why is it that girls who play football (or other sports of the like) are seen as being gay? I just do not understand.
i am not 4 sure but i think most guies think its wierd
wow. i think we have every right to i am sending a letter to my town asking for a team and boy if they say no i will be pissed off.
Sara - you might be interested in this article about women in sports
Let us know how it goes.
dum stuff man.. its just like saying african americans can’t drink from the same foutain. as non african americans..
thanks for the website Gretchen. went well.
Ummmm….
Sorry to burst your bubbles but women/girls will never be able to compete with males in any sport. It’s one thing to dream and quite another to have delusions…Hey…here’s a question…why can’t men/boys play on womens/girls teams? Also, I wonder why you never hear males saying “We’re as good as the women’s team” or people saying “he’s almost as good an athlete as one of the girls”. Most of you are trying to fulfill some void in your lives…quite possibly subconciously trying to satisfy your father’s dream that you were male instead of female….Sorry….Truth Hurts
Do you have any idea how dumb that sounded?
Wouldn’t men on women’s teams be the same as women on men’s teams? Ever heard of co-ed?
And I don’t think any of us have any desire to be male.
I think you are the one with the delusions. 
Hmmm….Yes, I’ve heard of co-ed teams. But what do you think would result if a co-ed team played an all-male team??? Now, question what the result would be if a co-ed team played an all female team….hmmm…wonder what would account for the difference!
You say I have delusions but you posted above that women can do everything men can but then come up with the ridiculous aside the “we tend to back down sooner” (tell that to a married man..HA).
Ok, then have a women get in the ring with a Mike Tyson or play one (just ONE) down in pro football without getting seriously hurt or killed. Or how about olympic wresting, UFC, yada yada. (Heck, lets have co-ed prisons since women are so equal to men and I guess can fend for themselves!)
Oh…I know your response will be “well those are contact/physical sports so they are unfair” so here’s another one:
Check out the times for this years Boston Marathon ( a none contact, physically comparable athletic event) - The top women finisher’s time was 2:29:18…The 47th (YES that’s forty seventh !!!) male runner’s time was 2:29:10, 8 seconds faster than the #1 female…Nope, no disparity there!
The truth may be difficult to accept but it is still true no matter whatever PC spin you put on it.
Well, then you men must feel really crushed, considering you are missing out on the most intense pain ever…child birth.
That’s the best you can do???
I’ll reiterate (or iterate….they mean they same thing) what you said “Do you have any idea how dumb that sounded?”…What does childbirth have to do with any of this…Oh wait..I know….you have no way to support your previous statements or position on equal athleticism so you’ll now resort to a singularly female topic…childbirth! Nice way to try to change the point of the whole topic but you offered nothing to refute my argument about what these posts have been regarding…namely women supposedly being as good as men at sports….No comment on the marathon times…Gee, that’s surprising….If you want I’ll find more examples or turn to golf, basketball, etc.
I can now sense that you are on the defensive and looking for a way out as you know you can’t win this argument ( I’m still waiting for the ol’ groin kick to a male standby as some sort of feminist equalizer and I’m surprised you haven’t put that out there yet!_)
Yeah - that’s the best I can do. I’ve spent the last 16 hours designing a web site for a client. What kind of productive work have you done all day? I’m not defensive, just annoyed. If you want me to “make a point” then how about this lovely blanket statement…I never said that all women would or should play men’s sports. I’m just pointing out that the opportunity to even give it a shot isn’t there. And I am willing to bet there are a few women out there that could survive an NFL game, much less one play. Don’t sell women short just because it hasn’t happened yet.
What are you annoyed about…The fact that I’ve offered examples you cannot refute or statements you find offensive (albeit very TRUE)
Now I know you’re delusional……”And I am willing to bet there are a few women out there that could survive an NFL game, much less one play. Don’t sell women short just because it hasn’t happened yet.”…..Are you in any way serious?… Do you have any idea of the caliber or talent necessary to play in the NFL?….Let me give you an idea….In my local high school we had a guy who was a standout…I mean totally much better than any other player and a real animal; workout warrior, awards, honors, etc.. To make a long story short, he got drafted by a Division 1 school and was regulated to 3rd string!!!… There are many stories like that…college QB’s who lead their teams to undefeated seasons, college running backs who score record yardage/TDs, etc…yet in the NFL they hardly play or are at best backups. I’ll make this solid guarantee…No woman will ever (yes, EVER!) play in a NFL football game (that is unless the feminist lobby finds some way to have it mandated by law and then gets a woman killed or paralyzed….but then they’ll push for rule changes to make it more “FAIR” for females). Stop believing in the fantasy of “women can do anything men can do” because it’s just that….a leap of fantasy!!!
Hope/positive thought is one thing….False hope or delusions of grandeur are quite another.
There will always be people who say that certain things “can’t” be done. It used be said that no one could break the 4 minute mile, but now both men AND women do that every day. What’s your point?
Amelia Earhart once said “Never interrupt someone doing something you said couldn’t be done.”
I’m annoyed because you’re interrupting me.
Ok, pretty sure this isn’t even worth my time arguing, but I have to make a comment on the childbirth thing. From a medical point of view, carrying a child, giving birth, and then lactating is one of the most physically demanding things a body can do, whether it is a human, a dog, a cow, etc. In fact, one of my vet school professors said during a lecture that in his opinion, dairy cows are the olympic athletes of the animal world because we ask them to milk 100 lbs of milk or more every day while being pregnant. I don’t see any bulls doing that!
My sister plays football for the Magazine Rattler football team in Logan County Arkansas so i know darn well girls can play football, all she has is me her older brother and three other brothers to hang around with so she is pretty tough, she is the starting guard for the Seventh Grade team!
Well….regarding Earhart, someone should have “interrupted” her before she tried to fly around the world and maybe she would have lived a lot longer. But, she “believed” it could be done and look how that turned out!!!
Once again…Ignorance (or wishful thinking) is bliss….I guess Gretchen likes living in her own little dream world manufacturing false info to keep herself blissfully unaware of what is and is not TRUE - The current world record in the mile is 3:43.13, set by Hicham El Guerrouj of Morocco on July 7, 1999. The current women’s record is 4:12.56 by Svetlana Masterkova of Russia, set on August 14, 1996. Not much of a disparity again huh? (Only almost a half minute!!…do I need to post how many males can run the mile faster than the top female now??) So, Gretchen, who are these females who run the mile in under 4 mins.??? Quick….if you know any that aren’t strictly from your imagination, alert the news/sports media because you are holding on to information of the highest importance!!…or are they once again just manifestations of a delusional mind???
Don’t know how we got onto animals or cows (and childbirth again in a discussion on ATHLETICISM!) but research early America & any early farming and you’ll see that what was used to carve out farmland, paths or space was manual plowing or clearing with the plows attached to bulls or steers (female animals were inherently to weak to do any of that kind of work….WAIT!…maybe there is some correlation with the animal kingdom that you can all learn from!)
I see you are resorting to personal attacks on me now by telling me I am delusional and live in a fantasy world. That’s fine. If you want to get personal, then I will speak from personal experience. When I was 14 my family was hit by a drunk driver. My injuries were so severe that doctors told my parents not to expect me to ever walk again. (So I probably should have given up right there because a doctor was telling me it just wasn’t possible.
) After weeks of physical therapy where I learned how to use my legs again, I was released from the hospital and today I can walk, run and jump just as well as any other physically normal human being.
Doctors also told me I might never have kids because of the injury. I have two beautiful daughters.
Just because someone tells you something can’t be done doesn’t mean they are right. You can call that “fantasy” and “blissful ignorance” but beating the odds is a reality I see in the mirror every day.
As for the athletic records, I’m sure you won’t like my answer but maybe I can tie all this together. I think the reason that men are excelling in atletics moreso than women is this…look at the ages of the record holders. Typically, the top athletes are in their 20’s and 30’s. For women, these are prime child bearing years. Men are more driven to be competitive and women know that if they miss that window of opportunity to have children then they don’t get a second chance.
So while the men are out pursuing athletic careers, women are choosing to raise families. It is a matter of priorities.
My second point - and the one you keep ignoring - is that women are not given enough opportunities to compete in athletics at higher levels. The playing field is slowly starting to level out now and we are seeing increases in women’s sports. It hasn’t completely happened yet. You don’t see near as many women pursuing athletic careers and when they do, they usually take a few years off to raise the kids. Men’s sports get way more sponsorship and attention than the women. Perhaps if women’s sports got as much support as the men (at all age and skill levels) then we wouldn’t even be having this debate.
And in reponse to your last point about the steers…the female cows weren’t “too weak” - they were back at the ranch pumping out 100 pounds of milk a day and raising the calves. I think farmvet already explained that the female cows were physically working much harder than the steers.
The delusional and fantasy comments were mostly gear towards claims (not so suspiciouly NOT followed up by you in your last post) regarding the supposed (and therefore deserved of the “delusional” and/or “fantasy” label) running of an UNDER 4 MINUTE MILE by ANY female. At this point its obvious that anytime you are proven wrong you attempt to change the original subject or avoid at all commenting on your undeniable errors. I’m trying to keep this topic on its original track about male vs. female athleticism yet we’ve gone from that to childbirth, cows, Earhart, etc. etc. in what seems like some plan by you to cloud the original issue since you can’t get out from under the TRUTH.
Now….again to set you straight (and prove you mistaken again….no bother really, I’m getting used to it)…The over 40 record in the Outdoor Mile run is 4:02:53 by David Moorcraft. Indoor is 3:58:15 by Eamonn Coghlan (obviously male). The over 40 female record in the Outdoor Mile run is 4:23.78 Yekaterina Podkopayeva (Instead of half a minute now only 21.25 - 25 secs. slower (not 100% sure if her record was set indoors or out)…a lifetime in track times). Your delusions are like bowling pins….you keep setting them up and I’ll knock them down (what’s next….the over 50, 60, 100 yr old club??)
I was going to (but neglected) to also mention in my post about farming that only male horses or donkeys (which are male…mares are female) were used for such plowing as they also has the necessary streth & stamina. Wait….let me guess, the female horses/mres were too busy giving milk or in labor to plow at all right??
Did ya ever think that women do try out for men’s sports but can’t compete at that level and that’s why there’s none there
And a final thought….maybe men’s sports are given all the money & advertising since sponsors realize that when it come to sporting events, people normally want to see the best and most talented play….
Good Lord, I don’t believe I’ve seen this level of chauvinism in ages!
I am absolutely stunned at the tone of these posts by Truth Hurts. The biting sarcasm just astounds me…and here we thought we could have a civil discussion. 
What I read was that Gretchen DID address the question…and you’re too busy being rude to realize it…when she said that women can or could compete with men in athletics, but they have been so long in gaining opportunities (thanks in part to chauvinism and sexual harassment) or that they must choose between other opportunities, that we haven’t fully seen what women are capable of achieving in the wide, wide world of sports.
Also, to address this: “Did ya ever think that women do try out for men’s sports but can’t compete at that level and that’s why there’s none there” Well, I’d have to say that there exists a lot of pigheadedness in the male dominated world of sports, and dare I say it? FEAR…that OMG, what if a “chick” were to be as good as the “good ol’ boys”? Well, we sure wouldn’t want to have that, now would we? And if a woman does make it to the team (as is beginning to happen more and more, as these women grow bolder), then quite often she has to work twice as hard to earn any respect at all. She also has to deal with people like Truth Hurts here, who no doubt bash her every attempt at success.
Frankly, I think you need to stop and take a look around at where you are…you may not like that this is a website for young women to encourage OTHER young women. Quite obviously, if anyone’s delusional here, it’s you, TH. To post as you have on a site that is meant to ENCOURAGE young women’s dreams and treat its creator as if she is dirt under your feet is an utter disgrace to YOU. You can now be proud of the fact that you’ve just supported every fear and every stereotype that young women feel toward men and male-dominated society. You’ve just trampled on some young woman’s dreams here. You can applaud for yourself now, because no one else will. Take a bow for being such an enlightened male.
I just hope that whoever “she” is, she will make you one day eat your words and accomplish more than anyone could ever dream for her life.
First of all, I’m no chauvinist….I’m a realist.
You posted: “What I read was that Gretchen DID address the question…and you’re too busy being rude to realize it…when she said that women can or could compete with men in athletics”…..Therein lies the conflict…All I’m saying is that women CANNOT compete with men on a equal level at any athletic/physical sporting event (obviously given similar age & levels). The proof is on record and undeniable but there will always be people like you who refuse to accept it or come up with self created (delusional)reasons to justify the disparities. Any time I post facts they’re never addressed or responded to with any opposite information to call the truth into question. Instead, attempts to change the topic, tug at the heart strings or name calling results.
I never said girls/women should not be encouraged. I think they should, vigorously. But, they should be encouraged to strive for attainable goals, not things that will never happen. What should be out there is giving young girls hope and direction towards being a Doctor, Astronaut, Professor, etc. all of which I have no doubt can be realized by women who choose to put forth the effort.
Preaching that a female may one day play in the NFL, outrun a male in the mile run etc., etc. and deluding other females that it could happen is analogous to giving a blind person hope that they could one day fly an airplane.
And you have now just taken this to another level…I do not believe that telling a woman she could one day outrun a male is like telling a person who cannot see (a DISABLED human being) that they can one day fly an airplane.
I also believe you were the one who started with the namecalling. And “tugging at heart strings”? As if you possess one to begin with.
Oh, and regarding the BLIND person flying an airplane: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/28/wflight28.xml
And don’t think because it’s a man that you’re off the hook. Gee, apparently what you think cannot be done may just one day actually be achieved.
Once again, here we go with half facts….
If you read the article fully (and without censoring it to neatly fit your point of view) you would have seen this:
“Aviation regulations required he take a sighted co-pilot, but in the As It Happens story he explained how his instruments were geared up to give him audio and voice feedback such that he could do most of it on his own.”
Further, he had vision when he was younger and also had some training then. This is much different than my example of giving a totally blind person (with no previous vision or training….or not having with them a CO-PILOT WITH VISION!!!) hope that they could one day fly an airplane on their own.
Oh…and about the “name-calling”….look above and you’ll see the first instance of that was by Gretchen posting “Do you have any idea how dumb that sounded?” to me in response to my orinal post (or is it that you also censor out any offensive posts made by women so as to avoid the facts and cast blame)
Think about it……
Still not sure this is worth replying to, but I must make a comment on the 4-minute mile discussion. So what if the female record holders were 20 some seconds behind the men. They could still outrun MILLIONS of men, probably even you TH. *Most athletes* will never be the top in their particular sports. Does this mean they should never compete in the first place because the odds are against them? Most male high school athletes who dream of the pros will never make it and may not even make a college team. Does this mean we should tell them not to play? Should we instead tell them that they should focus their time on other things because they will never make it as a pro athlete? That is ridiculous. I suppose next you’ll be telling me that I can’t be a large animal vet because girls aren’t strong enough to handle animals that weigh thousands of pounds. I suppose if I use a halter and lead rope that I’d be cheating just like the blind guy. Gimme a break. Go find someone else to try to discourage. I’ve heard enough about your version of “reality.”
“So what if the female record holders were 20 some seconds behind the men”….Huh??…That’s the whole point!…they’re more the 20 - 30 seconds slower because they CAN’T COMPETE ON AN EQUAL LEVEL with the male competition (that’s all I’ve been saying the whole time!). Or said another way…The top female athletes cannot compete seriously with the top male athletes of their chosen sport (after all, that’s why we have a separation of gender in sports anyway)
“Most athletes* will never be the top in their particular sports.” Agreed 100%
“Does this mean they should never compete in the first place because the odds are against them?”….No…I never said that….they should compete for a variety of reasons but should not be deluded into a belief by the “you can do anything” crowd that they can one day make it as a pro unless they are in the elite 1% that do….otherwise they’ll be wasting their time and efforts chasing a dream when they could be better spent on attaining a career or occupation they would excel at.
You referred to it yourself….most male athletes, even very, very good ones, will never make it to that level
Therefore,to suggest to a female athlete that she spend her life pursuing a athletic fairy tale ending that she may make it one day in NFL football, NBA, MLB baseball, etc. if she sets her mind to it is irresponsible and misleading.
Cold hard facts, while not pleasing to hear or flying in the face of someone’s dream, are still better than pushing unattainable dreams.
It’s ok to dream, but at some point you have to wake up and realize what is real & what is fantasy.
Honestly - my last post on this thread because pig-headed people can’t be convinced of anything so arguing is a waste of time. (If you want to go on about personal attacks, TH, just look at the end of your first post.) I just want to summarize my opinion.
1. You can’t know which goals are attainable and “realistic” until you try. Only those people who push the envelope will find out.
2. No one should squash another person’s dream, no matter how extreme or “unrealistic” it may sound. Everyone has a right to try whether they end up with success or failure.
3. The point of this discussion was not whether women would or should be playing in the NFL, etc. The point was that girls should be allowed to TRY at any of these sports without jerks telling them they can’t. If they fail, so be it, but at least they were given the opportunity.
**finished wasting my time**
And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is my sister…who just summed it up perfectly. Thanks, sis!
Not summed up by a long shot!
Response:
1. DISAGREE - You can know which goals are realistic or attainable based on the natural talent or aptitude of a given person. Someone who is great at art or drawing should pursue a career as an artisit/graphic desiger, etc; great at English/grammer…high chance of a rewarding writing career; ever hear the term “computer illiterate” … well, that type of person shouldn’t be given hope of having a rewarding job as a computer programmer, technician, Microsoft engineer,etc.
2. “Everyone has a right to try whether they end up with success or failure.”….Very naive statement (kinda reminds me of the “everybody has the right to be wrong” saying)…anyhow…a parent or mentor has an obligation in aiding the person they seek to help in the best way possible…that means captializing on an individual’s talents and ensuring the best chance possible that they can be successful in their chosen path…..while limiting the chances of their failure or dissappointment.
3. I never said they shouldn’t be able to try (just that they stood no chance of being successful (in the NFL/pro sports example)). Let everyone have a fair shot at trying BUT!!…don’t push to lower the entry standards to suit less talented people just to say they got on! If someone (male or female) can “pass the test” for entry then so be it. But…as is normally the case, special interest groups push for changes to ease the qualifying standards thereby polluting the field just to prove a point!
We’re through debating with you now, Mr. “Truth Hurts”. We get your point. You think men have no limits, but women do. We think that’s a load of BS. End of discussion.
yo this is lil’k i play football and on my team all the boys respect me ya;ll got probs
Just to let you know Mr. Truth Hurts, I played football and I’m a girl. I went out for the team this last school year. I started on the Jv team at the beginning of the season playing Defensive Corner and i subbed in on Offensive as a reciever. By the end of the season, I started playing up on our highschool varsity team on Special teams and subbing in on defensive. So, i guess the truth does hurt, girls can play too
Hey, Gild. Good for you. You know, lots of girls can’t play. That’s why i’m doing a report.
I agree with everything Truth Hurts has said. The trouble is some people today confuse being a realist with being a chauvinist. For sure, there are certain women who are better at sport than certain men. However the best men will always be better than the best women - it’s just genetics. Like Truth Hurts has said if you want proof just look at the best times in any competative sport. Also people only want to watch the best of a sport, hence why there isn’t a large commercial market for women’s sport, and why it won’t even be as big as men’s sport… unless it’s mudwrestling or something… I’d watch that…
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Chauvenism: “Prejudiced belief in the superiority of one’s own gender, group, or kind.”
Realism: “Considering things as they are or appear to be, avoiding ideals and abstractions.” (also known as a pragmatist)
Now, I have to say…after the mudwrestling comment, I think we know where “Fan of Truth Hurts” stands on the equality of women in sports.
I do not want to start the discussion all over again, but consider this:
gender based discrimination in sports is a particular kind of discrimination based on the argument that “men are naturally physically superior to women”. The fallacy in this argument is not that men are physically superior; it is the assumption that this difference is natural. Social evolution has at least as much implications in the development of the body and physical qualities than genetic heritage. That is the physical superiority of men, it has been argued, is correlated to the role of men and women (which is based in different power relations). In other words, men have had better access to physical activity and to better food… The interesting question to ask is why did that happen. Another interesting thing to look into is how are sports valued (results, strenght, but also fair play, team effort, which men and women share alike).
That said, I consider myself an average sports person, very average, so I am not the exeption that beats world male reccords. And I still play better than a lot of guys.
(sorry about the english, it is not my mother tongue)
Just one more thing:
Truth never hurts. Ignorance, unfortunately, can harm a lot more.
Mea - excellent points. I had not thought about the “social evolution” before. That does explain a few things. For example (and I have no actual data here, I am going off of what I have been told) if you read the thread about Spartan Women in the movie 300, you will find that these women were trained to handle weapons and to defend themselves while their men were off at war. Because this was a cultural norm for them, they developed a stronger breed of females. Interesting addition to the discussion.
For more information on how cultural specialization may affect your genes check the Baldwin Effect Hypothesis:
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/pcu/noesis/issue_vi/noesis_vi_4.html
As for Spartan Women they were in deed trained and fed almost the same way as there male counterparts (which does mean they had the same power, nor the same rights). They were still better off than some women nowdays. Anyway, I am guessing there is a little bit of the ‘amazon warrior legend’ fed into the hollywood film; still, it is a good example of how nurturing ‘changes nature’.
Very interesting. Thanks for the link.
Im sorry to sound so biased but its too refute all the sexist females here.
men are taller, stronger, faster and have more muscle mass. And since we seem to have invented almost everything and run everything and lead every country and boardroom we’re smarter too.
women are good at knitting
if women were better then men then why have they been surpressed since time began (and still are in the majority of the workd) and even now in the western world were strength doesn’t matter as much they stil bitch about the glass ceiling an wot not.
Seriously Shawn - pay attention before you post.
I didn’t say I think women are better, I said I think we should be treated with respect and be given equal opportunity.
“if women were better then men then why have they been surpressed since time began (and still are in the majority of the workd) and even now in the western world were strength doesn’t matter as much they stil bitch about the glass ceiling an wot not.”
If that is your argument, then why didn’t African Americans rise up and end slavery themselves? By all appearances, African Americans seem to be “better” athletes and therefore “stronger” than the Caucasian slave masters. Chew on that for a while.
And while you’re at it, learn how to type and spell. You’re making the male population look illiterate.
“If that is your argument, then why didn’t African Americans rise up and end slavery themselves? By all appearances, African Americans seem to be “better” athletes and therefore “stronger” than the Caucasian slave masters. Chew on that for a while.”
Nicely done.
Actually - after I thought about it more - I realized I could have left athletics out of the equation. Slaves would have been naturally bigger and stronger due to the intense manual labor they were subjected to doing. So again - lame argument from Mr. Shawn.
“And a final thought….maybe men’s sports are given all the money & advertising since sponsors realize that when it come to sporting events, people normally want to see the best and most talented play….”
There is a reason that men play in the Superbowl. If females were allowed to play a masculine sport such as football, nobody but other lesbians would watch, and the sponcers would disappear. Nobody want to watch females play sports. Why are you so adamant about females playing sports is this some lesbian vendetta against men? Why lesbian? Females who act masculine are gay.
“Well, then you men must feel really crushed, considering you are missing out on the most intense pain ever…child birth.”
Pregnancy is not a sport. Pregnany also has nothing to do with sports. It is an irrelevant departure.
“Wouldn’t men on women’s teams be the same as women on men’s teams? Ever heard of co-ed?”
Co-ed? God separated male and female for a reson. They don’t mix well. That means both genders share the same smelly locker room. Most men do not want to play football with militant man hating lesbians.
I know you and your life partner would love to someday play a man’s sport like say football. You have a sooner chance of getting lesbo married.
No, I think females lezzing it up it gross. It’s al about the feamales. Eeew! I don’t get it. I don’t much care for females especially militant ones who don’t shave and who have life partners.
Wow - and how old are you?
Does your mommy know you’re on the Internet? Dude I am married to a MAN and I am as straight as a girl can be. Playing sports has nothing to do with sexual preference anyway. The clue train just left. Too bad you weren’t old enough to ride. 
You’re telling me this not some wakko liberal lesbo website for homosexual females to vent about Title IX? You say your hetero marriage. You could be lying, whatever. Straight girls are innto boys and makeup not sports. Homosexual females like sports because they can see other females in skimpy clothing. Cheerleading is not a support. These vappid female activities are not sports. Hetero females do not want to see other females in skimpy clothing. That’s gay! All female sport have females dressed like common hookers too. Why is that? For homosexual females or hetero males?
“You’re telling me this not some wakko liberal lesbo website for homosexual females to vent about Title IX?”
Yes. That’s what I’m saying.
“Straight girls are innto boys and makeup not sports.”
Grow up. By that analogy I might as well say that all boys on the Internet can’t type or spell.
“All female sport have females dressed like common hookers too.”
Again, grow up. I have never seen a female athletic uniform that involved a miniskirt, fishnet hose or 9″ heels.
Ladies - we are no longer feeding this troll.
Thank you. Because brainless trolls, especially, should be starved.
i think girls should have as many rights as boys. So whatthey are boys whats so special about them that we don’t have?
I just need to vent A LITTLE.( sorry about feeding the troll) My smart, pretty, outgoing GIRL plays football. She’s 8 !!! And she kicks some serious boy butt! ( girls getting a head start on the growing thing has it’s advatages)She also likes “girly”stuff,make-up,nail polish etc(not that she’s allowed right now) Am I to understand that I’m making her a lesbian? I’m sorry, I thought I was letting her play a sport she LOVES.
“Homosexual females like sports because they can see other females in skimpy clothing. ” Have you seen a football uniform buddy? It covers every inch of her! It takes me a good 10 min to get her geared up. She wears everything the “boys” do. And if it gets cold, ha-ha add another 5 for the extra layer.
Do females that go to a gym do it for the skimpy clothing also? I’m guessing that you only date out of shape, overweight people.
My daughter will play as long as she wants to and even if she is a lesbian I will love her anyway. I’m her MOM!!!!!!
( all done troll feeding. Sorry, will control myself better from now on.)
Good for you ziggysmommy!
We feed all kinds of trolls here. I kind of like it. It gives us a chance to show their ignorance. Notice they don’t usually come back after one or two posts. 
Hi I just found this site (searching females who play football on google)and think its awesome! I am going into my freshman year and have signed up for the freshman football team. I have been playing football (unoficially) since I was a little kid and I have loved it forever (my dad used to watch football all the time and to keep me interested he would tell me that “Big bird was number 8, the quarterback. Barney was the kicker. etc.” and i have loved it since then (even though I was devastated to find out that BArney/Big Bird never played football =]! So any way even though everyone who has seen me play knows I am just as good if not better than the guys but they still say that girls can’t play football. I thought it was time for me to take action and stick up for all the girls out there who think that just because people tell them that “they can’t” do something that they can! Wish me luck my first practice is in a few days!
Amanda - that is awesome. I can’t throw as far as a guy, but I can get a perfect spiral and I can kick farther than a lot of guys.
Keep us posted on how it goes. Freshman year can be tough. Hang in there!
As you can tell by the comments above yours, there are a lot of guys who think girls can’t compete. Prove them wrong.
Although this is the never-ending story ( I mean we all have had a ‘started as a playful banter ended up in a blazing row’ conversation of the like with our male friends) I wanted to toss in my two cents. I confess, the whole thing does my head in coz I don’t understand why some people can be so narrow-minded when it comes to sports and females (not that we don’t get males banned from sports such as synchronized swimming but the number of females banned from “allegedly” male sports outnumbers the first by far). Anyway to make a long story short after reading Truth Hurt’s comment ‘any time I post facts they’re never adressed or responded to with any opposite information to call the truth into question’ I’ve decided to pick on some things that have been said and hand back some facts and claps.
Gretchen: It’s just that as we get older, we females tend to back down sooner
That may be one of the reasons. When asked why there weren’t more girls racing motorbikes Katja Poensgen (www.katja-poensgen.de/) - answered with a similar reasoning that went along the lines of females being more scared of breaking their bones and accidents.
TH: Women/girls will never be able to compete with males in any sport
You may want to recheck that one.Margaret McGregor won over Loi Chow in a boxing fight back in 1999 in Seattle: http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/1999/1009/106430.html
TH: I wonder why you never hear males saying “We’re as good as the women’s team” or people saying “he’s almost as good an athlete as one of the girls”.
Probably because some dim-witted men decided a long time ago that sports were a ‘just for boys’ activity and banned girls from them and that implied that they were bad at them coz they weren’t allowed to them. And whenever the guys on those sports did something wrong the one thing they got to hear from their dim-witted coaches was: ‘you’re playing like girls’ or the even worst ‘you’re worst than a girl’. And those phrases got said over and over again over decades with the obvious negative connotations that they brought to women and their abilities when it comes to playing sports.
The US soccer team won the olympic gold medal in 1996, the silver medal in 2000 and silver again in 2004. And no, unfortunately for you these weren’t the boys. Oops. Maybe some teams would like to be almost as good as the girls but have to keep on dreaming of delusioning (seems to be your favourite word these days).
TH: Your father’s dream that you were male instead of female
Yeah yeah go on tell us about China, India … *rolls eyes*
TH: What do you think would result if a co-ed team played an all-male team???
August 30, 2003: University of Mexico (they had Katie Hnida with them) won 72-8 against Texas State University and Hnida became the first woman to score in a NCCA Division I football game scoring two extra points.
TH: Ok, then have a women get in the ring with a Mike Tyson or play one (just ONE) down in pro football without getting seriously hurt or killed. Or how about olympic wresting, UFC, yada yada. (Heck, lets have co-ed prisons since women are so equal to men and I guess can fend for themselves!)
With a Mike Tyson? You mean the earbiting boxer who doesn’t even qualify as a boxer because when he was about to get the living daylights beaten out of him he weaseled out by biting his oponent’s ear? Oh yeah he’s a great example of what a great sportman should be.
I’m sure Gretchen would love to have a woman on a NFL game as many others and I’m sure if it was in her hands she’d do the impossible to get her to play but unfortunately she doesn’t have the last word. But maybe you, seems you’re so clever, can find a man with some guts to offer a woman a place in a pro football team. And what the sudden concern about her getting seriously hurt or killed? Oh please, women are not as breakable as you may think they are. Especially if they are playing football. Take a look at this two ladies playing HIGH SCHOOL football:
Shelby Tinklepaugh: 15 years stands 5’10’’ weighs 155 pounds
Holley Mangold: 17 years stands 5’9’’ weighs 315 pounds
I’m afraid they’d probably stonewall you
Prisons? Whoa I had no idea they were supposed to be sports centers
TH: Check out the times for this years Boston Marathon ( a none contact, physically comparable athletic event) - The top women finisher’s time was 2:29:18…The 47th (YES that’s forty seventh !!!) male runner’s time was 2:29:10, 8 seconds faster than the #1 female…Nope, no disparity there!
Ever heard of free-diving? Well here are the official world records as of June 16th 2007 taken from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-diving
Static Apnea:
- women: Natalia Molchanova 8m00s
- men: Tom Sietas 9m08s
Dynamic Apnea:
- women: Natalia Molchanova 200ms
- men: Stig Severinsen 225 ms
Dynamic Apnea, without fins
- women: Natalia Molchanova 149ms
- men: Stig Severinsen 186 ms
Constant Weight:
- women: Mandy-Rae Cruickshank - 88ms
- men: Herbert Nitsch –111ms
Constant Weight without fins
- women: Natalia Molchanova –55 ms
- men: Martin Štěpánek – 83 ms
Free Immersion
- women: Natalia Molchanova –80ms
- men: Martin Štěpánek –106ms
Variable Weight
- women: Tanya Streeter –122ms
- men: Carlos Coste –140ms
No limits:
- women: Tanya Streeter –160ms
- men: Herbert Nitsch –214 ms
Now who would you say is the best athlete? There’s one name that keeps on showing up and that’s not a man’s but a woman’s: Natalia Molchanova. Her name’s nearly in all the categories which to me and almost everyone means that she’s the best athlete, the most complete out there.
TH: Women supposedly being as good as men at sports
Get this into your head. No one has mentioned anything of the like in this board so far!! They are not saying they are as good in fact they don’t need to! They have different leagues to play versus other very competitive athletes (and no they are not men sorry to deceive you). The problem here is that sometimes they don’t get the chance to even have a team of their own and that’s the only reason why they are forced to play with males (who ever told you that they wanted to play with them? Maybe they don’t! Maybe they just want to play and their only way to do such thing is joining the boys!)
TH: the ol’ groin kick to a male standby as some sort of feminist equalizer
That’s coz that’s a low blow. You may be known for them, the girls in this thread obviously are not.
Gretchen: I never said that all women would or should play men’s sports. I’m just pointing out that the opportunity to even give it a shot isn’t there.
Thanks for pointing that one Gretchen for Truth Hurts although I’m afraid he deliberately ignored that TRUE FACT. It’s funny that he seems to be annoyed all the time because he’s statements are not refuted and then he has nothing to say on that one piece of truth that you hand him. He just complaints about how the standards are lowered for women when they are given A try. Notice that I wrote A try because that’s what they get one try, that’s it. Then they are out. And if they succeed well they’ll put it down to luck and if they don’t they’ll say ‘told you’ ‘saw that one coming from miles’ blablabla. And even when women succeed they have people waiting for them to fall and it takes just one fall, one mistake to bring all the hardwork down and unfortunately close further chances to other girls because they assume that if one girl fails all will. Fortunately things are changing now and it’s more and more usual to see coertion free girls down at the field.
Gretchen: And I am willing to bet there are a few women out there that could survive an NFL game, much less one play. Don’t sell women short just because it hasn’t happened yet.
Exactly my point a few paragraphs above
TH: Do you have any idea of the caliber or talent necessary to play in the NFL?….Let me give you an idea….In my local high school we had a guy who was a standout…I mean totally much better than any other player and a real animal; workout warrior, awards, honors, etc.. To make a long story short, he got drafted by a Division 1 school and was regulated to 3rd string!!!… There are many stories like that…college QB’s who lead their teams to undefeated seasons, college running backs who score record yardage/TDs, etc…yet in the NFL they hardly play or are at best backups.
Look it takes more than being the best of your glitzy High school team to be the best athlete out there. Oh so the guy of your school was a real animal, a workout warrior (I mean, c’mon, you may want to use other adjectives coz that sounded pretty much like the usual 8 years old WWE fan kid’s vocabulary) and he had a couple of awards, big deal. Becoming a pro is not about getting awards it’s about being driven, focused and having heart.
TH: No woman will ever (yes, EVER!) play in a NFL football game
I’m confused now. I thought you were earlier on encouraging Gretchen to get a woman to play one down (just one for her own well-being, god forbid us for wanting her to play the entire game, the poor thing would have to be scratched off the pitch with the help of a spatula then) in pro football.
Have you stopped for a second to think that maybe no woman wants to play there? Have you heard of the WFL? Seems like NFL is even scared of this league check it out: The National Women’s Football Association (NWFA) was originally called the National Women’s Football League, but changed its name after the 2002 season. The name change came after pressure from the National Football League. The NFL also required the league to change the logos of some teams whose logo resembled those of NFL teams.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_American_football they don’t need your lovely NFL
You just reminded me of some guys who not so long ago (1966 to be exact) were saying that african americans couldn’t/ shouldn’t play basketball… It took one man, coach Don Haskins, and his team (and probably individuals at Texas Western College) to prove them wrong. And guess what? They won the 1966 NCAA Men’s Division I Basketball Championship over the Wildcats of the University of Kentucky an all-white squad.
TH: Unless the feminist lobby finds some way to have it mandated by law and then gets a woman killed or paralyzed….but then they’ll push for rule changes to make it more “FAIR” for females
News flash: that kind of thing is not what females are looking for because its demeaning to them
TH: Well….regarding Earhart, someone should have “interrupted” her before she tried to fly around the world and maybe she would have lived a lot longer. But, she “believed” it could be done and look how that turned out!!!
Gosh, I now know where you coming from!! You’re a Homer Simpson’s fan: the first step to failure is trying. I so can see a bright future ahead of you. It’s great to know there have been, are, and will always be lots of great minds out there thinking the complete opposite; else we would still be living in caverns which I’m pretty sure you’d love but…
TH: Research early America & any early farming and you’ll see that what was used to carve out farmland, paths or space was manual plowing or clearing with the plows attached to bulls or steers (female animals were inherently to weak to do any of that kind of work….WAIT!…maybe there is some correlation with the animal kingdom that you can all learn from!)
Early farming? Okay… have you seen any western at all? Do you know who took care of the house, the farming, the family (summing up everything) when the male was away? The woman. That’s how early America was built, that’s how lots of households are still maintain in modern America nowadays. If you want more examples you may want to check the actual situation in Africa and their women. But of course this is complete off topic, something that seemed to annoy you pretty much when other people were –according to you- running out of statements to refute your wisdom.
TH: Did ya ever think that women do try out for men’s sports but can’t compete at that level and that’s why there’s none there
Again mate you should start to look for better sources or at least know what you’re talking about. Ever heard of Jeannie Longo? She’s a cyclist who as a teen had to race against boys coz there weren’t competions for girls and she got to win them and found strong opposition from the other kids’ parents just because she was better than their sons. She’s considered the greatest female cyclist of all-time.
Kel1: Well, I’d have to say that there exists a lot of pigheadedness in the male dominated world of sports, and dare I say it? FEAR…that OMG, what if a “chick” were to be as good as the “good ol’ boys”? Well, we sure wouldn’t want to have that, now would we?
“In the post World War II era, the first girl known to have played high school football was Frankie Groves of Stinnett High School in Texas. Her showcase game was versus Groom High School in November 1947. Soon after the game, Texas’ high school sports ruling body formally banned girls from playing high school football–a ban that would not be lifted until 1993.”
If they are so bad at football what were texans worried about? Oh hang on I can see this one coming: Tradition right Truth Hurts? Please…
TH: Maybe men’s sports are given all the money & advertising since sponsors realize that when it come to sporting events, people normally want to see the best and most talented play
Oh then I guess that’s why in the States when people want to see the best and most talented soccer players they go to see the girls…
Kel1: That women can or could compete with men in athletics, but they have been so long in gaining opportunities (thanks in part to chauvinism and sexual harassment) or that they must choose between other opportunities, that we haven’t fully seen what women are capable of achieving in the wide, wide world of sports
The childbirth comment must be thrown into this one. A male athlete can have a child coz he doesn’t have to put a haul on his career. A woman must.
TH: Never said girls/women should not be encouraged. I think they should, vigorously. But, they should be encouraged to strive for attainable goals, not things that will never happen. What should be out there is giving young girls hope and direction towards being a Doctor, Astronaut, Professor, etc. all of which I have no doubt can be realized by women who choose to put forth the effort.
For a second there I thought you would encourage them to be housewives, so I guess that’s some kind of progress. Maybe girls are fed up of being told what it is that they can do and what they can’t and I’m pressuming you have never been into that situation coz else you would understand what this whole thing is about. Why a girl should be encourage to be a doctor if she wants to be an athlete? Maybe you should go back to high school and check on the male athletes in there and encourage them to not give up on school instead.
TH: Preaching that a female may one day play in the NFL, outrun a male in the mile run etc., etc. and deluding other females that it could happen
Well if you check records they have outrun male’s world records in the past so you never know what the next generation can acomplish if you let them dream instead of pushing their heads down. Maybe today a woman can’t beat a man’s world record but that record can be and will be broken by a woman one day that once was told that she could do whatever she set her mind to. So of course men will break it before and set new ones, that’s what sports are about, and that’s one of the main reasons why there are female and male records anyway.
Just a question: do you have dreams? God it must have been hard growing up for you since all dreams are unattainable at the very beginning, EVEN for someone who wants to be an astronaut; if you haven’t noticed there’s no school for ‘aspiring astronaut kids’ whatsoever only hardwork and aspiration to get there one day. And even when they have gone through high school, college, masters, whatever there’s still a chance for them to never fulfill their dreams. But if you don’t dream, if you don’t keep trying, what else are you supposed to do? At this point I don’t expect you to understand. I only can pity you.
Kel1: What you think cannot be done may just one day actually be achieved
Yup, Truth Hurts here justs needs to grab a history book and look at all the things that people once said that couldn’t be done and eventually was: trip around the world, flying planes,…those are only a few.
TH: “So what if the female record holders were 20 some seconds behind the men”….Huh??…That’s the whole point!…they’re more the 20 - 30 seconds slower because they CAN’T COMPETE ON AN EQUAL LEVEL with the male competition
Sure they can and that’s exactly what they have done in that stupid marathon of yours. Gosh, do us a favour and learn more examples for your next post will you? If they couldn’t compete then all the men in that marathon would have outstood the women and obviously they didn’t – not to mention women wouldn’t have been allowed to run in the first place. So what the winning woman didn’t beat the winning man. And? Marathons are not about girls vs boys they are personal fights vs time, as everything that goes around athletics really. Go talk to an athletics coach, he may enlighten you.
TH: “Does this mean they should never compete in the first place because the odds are against them?”….No…I never said that….they should compete for a variety of reasons but should not be deluded into a belief by the “you can do anything” crowd that they can one day make it as a pro unless they are in the elite 1% that do….otherwise they’ll be wasting their time and efforts chasing a dream when they could be better spent on attaining a career or occupation they would excel at
Are you honest about this? Will you really tell this to a boy too?
All I can say is that I’m glad you were born
male, life as a girl for you would have been hell on earth, you would have lasted one day, hardly
TH: Therefore,to suggest to a female athlete that she spend her life pursuing a athletic fairy tale ending that she may make it one day in NFL football, NBA, MLB baseball, etc. if she sets her mind to it is irresponsible and misleading.
Of course she should focus on her homemaking career.
C’mon, grow up! And you may like to know that girls do not play in NBA neither want to, they’d much rather play in WNBA.
TH: Let everyone have a fair shot at trying BUT!!…don’t push to lower the entry standards to suit less talented people just to say they got on! If someone (male or female) can “pass the test” for entry then so be it. But…as is normally the case, special interest groups push for changes to ease the qualifying standards thereby polluting the field just to prove a point!
Here we go again… What is it? Some average girl was better than you and they sat you on the stool for seasons? Maybe you should be around more girls to know that that’d be the last thing they would be asking for. If you can’t be around girls for the obvious reasons you should rent ‘G.I. Jane’ and check out what she does with the ‘lowering the entry standards’ Who know you may ende up learning a thing or two
Elizabeth: You know, lots of girls can’t play. That’s why i’m doing a report.
That’s the problem, it’s not that they can’t play is that they are NOT allowed to. That’s what needs to be changed. That and certain persons mentality obviously but I cannot stress that one any more.
TH Fan: Im sorry to sound so biased but its too refute all the sexist females here
Oh so standing your ground is being sexist… that’s interesting. Piece of advice, buy a dictionary today and look sexist up.
TH Fan: men are taller, stronger, faster and have more muscle mass. And since we seem to have invented almost everything and run everything and lead every country and boardroom we’re smarter too.
Thanks for marking the ‘since we seem to’. Okay you do not seem to need a dictionary you actually need it. Seem means to give the impression of being. Therefore it don’t necessarily has to be such as mean leading every country. I mean, are you serious? Men lead every country? My bad, forget the dictionary and get yourself an encyclopedia. Completely subestimated you there, you’re more dense than what I thought at first. No need to comment on your triumphant: we’re smarter.
7: There is a reason that men play in the Superbowl. If females were allowed to play a masculine sport such as football, nobody but other lesbians would watch, and the sponcers would disappear. Nobody want to watch females play sports. Why are you so adamant about females playing sports is this some lesbian vendetta against men? Why lesbian? Females who act masculine are gay.
And your reason for men playing in the Superbowl is?
News Flash 7 females ARE allowed to play football, have you heard of Katie Hnida? Instead of writing try reading first, you may gain benefit and even some knowledge on topics you have no idea about.
Nobody wants to watch females play sports? Check soccer, check synchronized swimming, check tennis, check basketball, check volleyball, etc.
7: Co-ed? God separated male and female for a reson. They don’t mix well. That means both genders share the same smelly locker room. Most men do not want to play football with militant man hating lesbians.
God separated male and female… they don’t mix well…
Uh, that has popped some questions: Are you yourself a man hating lesbian or a woman hating gay? Were you test tube generated? Seems your parents didn’t mix well…
And just in case you don’t know most men do not want to play football with people that CAN kick them out of a team whether that be a female or another male and if you want some proof of that go back in America’s history and check what happened in Alexandria with the T.C. Williams football team.
7: You’re telling me this not some wakko liberal lesbo website for homosexual females to vent about Title IX?
Why liberal gets immediately linked with lesbian?
Plus you’ll be glad to know that “although the most prominent “public face” of Title IX is its impact on high school and collegiate athletics, the original statute made no reference to athletics” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX
7: Straight girls are innto boys and makeup not sports. Homosexual females like sports because they can see other females in skimpy clothing.
You just offended the whole wide world female population. Straight girls are into boys into makeup and into whatever they want to be into, sports included. Have you ever been to a stadium? Maybe not seems you’re mentally still in kindergarden so probably it’s not safe for you to be hanging out and about, so let me fill you in: stadiums are usually full of girls mad about sports that go along friends, family, boyfriends, girlfriends, husbands, their kids, their neighbours. I could really go on and on. But I’d rather point out your little experience when it comes to being involved in a team sport coz else you’d be pretty aware of clothing being the least important thing once the whistle goes. Ah my my.
And that’s all folks! Sorry it took so long but had to get it all off my chest. I must also apologize coz it did look neater in my 8 pages long word document… :S Anyway I’m going to reply now to the original post: aka please post the names and/or web sites of women who play football at any level :
Sacramento Sirens, their site has a women’s football history section worth visiting:
http://www.sacramentosirens.com/sswomen/sirenswomensfootball_history.htm
History of Girls Playing Tackle Football: http://www.fortunecity.com/wembley/mueller/641/princesses/timeline.html
And there are lots of stories like this young girl’s who hopes to one day play professional football for the Pittsburgh Passion. Like I said who needs NFL? : ) : http://www.wpxi.com/news/13887061/detail.html?cnn=yes
You can also take a few seconds off to vote in that site the question is: should girls play on boys’ football team? So far Yes goes ahead: 60% (106 votes) whilst No has 40% (72 votes) of the votes
And last but not least to everyone out there trying to do their thing some great advice taken from the movie “The Pursuit of Happyness”: “You got a dream, you gotta protect it. People can’t do something themselves, they wanna tell you that you can’t do it. You want something? Go get it. Period.”
Take Care!
Wow. Just…wow. Please don’t apologize for the length of your post. It was fabulous.
Love your quote at the end from “The Pursuit of Happyness,” too. Awesome, and so true.
Ice–you rock.
HOLY COW! Ice, You Rock!!!! Thanks for the info. I read it to my girl f-ball player( broke it down to 8yr old level) and she though it was great.
Amanda, how did practice go?
Update on my daughter-for those of you lurking/reading. She BROKE HER ARM ! during Thurs. night practice. They were running tackling drills and her hand hit the ground the same time the other guys helmet hit her wrist. She is going to miss their season opener.
We were in the ER waiting and she wanted to know when she could play again. Ha-ha. As soon as she is hard-casted ( next Tues.) she can be padded up and back in the game. Now, I don’t know how I feel about that but, if it keeps her from getting discouraged….
@Ice: that was SO awesome! Thanks for posting that and for backing it up with the links. There are so many tangents you could go off on that you should consider picking one or two and entering them in the contest.
@ziggysmommy: What a trooper! That shows true heart when she is still willing to play, cast and all. I did the same thing after I broke my back. I got right back on the basketball court as soon as I got released to play. I had to steer clear of the rough action under the net, but I got to shoot a lot of 3-pointers and run plays. We are tougher than we give ourselves credit for sometimes.
Oh and I wanted to add that I made the boys basketball team in the 6th grade, not because I wanted to compete against or with the boys, but because that was my ONLY option to play basketball. Ice speaks the truth, and it does not hurt.
I`m not being sexist but im being truthful and blunt when I say girls wont survive College ball or Pro ball…High School ball yes…but beyond that…very rare but still possible..just look at Holley Mangold and her goals…seems possible to me…oh yeah…why cant guys play Volleyball??
Seems to me that Allen did not read through this entire thread.
And guys DO play volleyball. If I am not mistaken, Men’s Volleyball is an Olympic sport.